by John Glynn | Jan 20, 2013 | Classic Porsche Blog, Market & Prices
Just had an interesting comment from Greg on our recent record-price Porsche 912 story. Greg is apparently a former owner of the car and says:
I used to own this car when it was blue! Originally green and it had done over 300,000 miles when I owned it. Yes, it was probably the best car I owned ( and still would love to! ). But at that price I’d hope there had been a lot of work done. If anyone buys it I still have a few bits for it that would increase its value as they are from that car.
If this is true, it’s quite a turn up for the books: makes the proposition even more discussion worthy. No history for its early life, but a seemingly full restoration later on, albeit not in original colour. Assuming the value is lower than the asking price, does the mileage the chassis has done make a difference at this end of the market?
I have no early history for my Carrera 3.0 (above) and the engine is not the original. Donated by a write off, it’s said to have 90k miles on the clock, but I don’t know that for sure. It made no difference to me when buying it as I intended to rebuilt it anyway. The car has some very nice parts fited and work done, and I know what it would cost to replace, so that would be the basis for an asking price if it ever came up for sale.
On that same cost-to-construct basis with an eye on prices elsewhere, this 1965 Porsche 912 is priced in the ball park. Question is the same as with all of these cars: is there a buyer at that sort of money?
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by John Glynn | Jan 19, 2013 | Classic Porsche Blog
Spending time with former PCGB Production Championship driver, Josh Sadler at Autofarm last week brought back memories of a recent chat with Michael Hodges at MPH Communications. Michael shared stories from his time running PR for BFGoodrich tyres in the great days of sportscars, when BFG ran a team of Porsche 962s in IMSA.
“The Daytona 24 Hours in February was a great deal better than a soggy UK!” says Michael. “I am also old enough to have been around in the days when a photographer’s pass allowed you to crouch down at the apex of corners and shoot away.
“This picture (above) is Becketts at the 1976 Silverstone 6 Hours. Lap after lap, Jochen Mass planted his Porsche 935 in the same spot and drifted past in a whoosh! It was only a 135mm lens, so I could just about touch the paint. And I don’t think we even had tabards. Madness: but fun.
“I also got BFGoodrich to sponsor the Porsche Club GB Production Championship for three years. Really great times, when genuine 2.7RSs slugged it out. Driving standards were brilliant.”
No one needs to ask what the Cult of Porsche means, when people like Michael can share these kinds of stories. Sums it all up perfectly!
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by John Glynn | Jan 19, 2013 | Classic Porsche Blog, Modified Porsche Hot Rods, Project Cars
Few classic Porsche cars sum up Ferdinand’s driving, not posing policy more than those built at WEVO in San Carlos, CA. One of my favourite cars from this stable is a 1967 Porsche 912, known in the family as Primrose, which I first enjoyed driving two years ago. This is me: pic by Jamie.
The ’67 is Aga Blue. It’s a genuine barn find, with only 36,000 miles on the clock when first uncovered. Hayden Burvill regards the 912 as “the essential-to-understand engineering link between the 356 and the 911. Put into dry storage in 1972, we recovered it in 2007, the 35-year hibernation leaving the interior beautifully preserved and the exterior degraded in a manner that is difficult to describe.
“The patina is insanely genuine, at times disturbing, yet any effort to control or preserve it would look ridiculously contrived. The 912 is heavily waxed, waxed over every blemish and that seems like the appropriate treatment for the time being.”
When I first drove this classic Porsche, it had a simple engine build and almost standard suspension, albeit rebuilt with new bushes. Since then, Hayden has further upgraded the running gear: most noticeably with a 1900cc engine that was run in on the 2012 California Melee.
“The 1900cc motor has been faultless so far. Initially it required a little tuning and synchronization of the carbs but otherwise all good and much nicer than the old motor. Went on a diet and took another 16lbs off during the build, so the car is now about 2000 lbs with a full tank and 110hp: about BMW 2002 territory.
“Old engine to new engine: we kept the crank and flywheel and the cam, but not much else. Entering it on the Melee was an incentive to get it working. The 912 turned out to be the perfect car for the event, rewarding care with momentum – and the big grin that comes from sliding about on dry pavement at legal speeds on 165/80-15 tires.
“The nimble 912 can tackle the unexpected with such finesse, it makes me very happy to have left the 911 at home for another day. That said, after an unbroken run of 140 miles, my shoulders did feel like a massage would have helped. Drivers in the heavier cars would have enjoyed a great upper body workout.”
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by John Glynn | Jan 18, 2013 | Classic Porsche Blog, Market & Prices, Porsche People
Working on a classic Porsche insurance value for a friend’s 924 Carrera GT the other day, it occurred to me that the last time I had a chat about GT and GTS values was with 924 superfan, Derek Bell, in the car park at the Goodwood Kennels while writing a feature on his Porsche 928 Club Sport for Porsche World magazine.
Endurance superstar Derek famously owns a red 924 Carerra GTS (above), given to him by Porsche, and driven back to the UK in legendary style with the late Russell Bulgin alongside. I had a quick look at prices online and send DB a short email reminder to check the agreed insurance value for the car, as who knows where they might stop in the current climate. I included a link to a 924 Carrera GTS that’s been for sale at Freisinger for a while, priced at €80k.
I got a speedy reply, assuring me he was up to date on 924 values and noting one sale at over £100k! I wondered if he meant USD but for sure adding in the provenance would take values for his own car to a whole other level.
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by John Glynn | Jan 18, 2013 | Classic Porsche Blog, Modified Porsche Hot Rods, Project Cars
I had a cool email recently from Alex Webster, who works for Porsche in sunny Australia. Alex and dad Stewart have a tasty 356 collection, including the one seen here: a 1960 Roadster built as an all-metal Outlaw.
Others in the line up include a Carrera GT, Carrera 2, 1958 speedster and 1956 sunroof coupe: all original RHD. Stewart had this to say about his collection:
“The GT was delivered to New Zealand and has only covered 13k miles. The Carrera 2 was delivered to AFN in England, and made its way to Australia twenty years ago. Condition is said to be new: sounds like a beautiful car. The Speedster is one of four in Stone Grey cars, and was delivered through Hamiltons in Melbourne in 1958. The ’56 sunroof coupe was delivered by the dealer in Sydney and it too is like new.”
Stewart’s other 356s include half a dozen US models, restored and converted to RHD. The Outlaw looks like something else: someone should do a story on these Webster boys 😀
by John Glynn | Jan 18, 2013 | Classic Porsche Blog, Project Cars
The best thing to come from blogging is an interesting social network. I’ve met some great people via writing and photographing Porsche cars over the last eight years, and to help three of them out in one go is a rewarding experience.
When an East Coast R Gruppe buddy emailed details of a SWB car for sale on the other side of the world a few months ago, asking my opinion and whether I knew anyone connected to the car, I drew a blank. My network is good, but not that good.
Fast forward a few months and another car comes up for sale. This one’s a 1970 911 in the UK, being sold by someone I’ve known online for a while, previously dealt with and bought from in person. Even better, this RHD 911 was for sale on the doorstep of some friends, so a pre-purchase inspection recommendation was ready and waiting.
My friends got together on the deal, and sent the car for a check over. The 911 was given a clean bill of health – couple of advisories but nothing serious. A deal was agreed and the car sailed off overseas: not stayed in the UK and not gone to America.
Will be nice to get some new pics of this 1970 Porsche 911T in its new home one day: great to help a Porsche deal happen!
